FideousMember

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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by Fideous on 04/15/2009 6:32 pm
Here is the standard build for enhance Elife
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#hVhhVZhbxIoxdIhusouVo
There are 2 points left over for you to place depending on what you will be running. For 25 mans Enhance doesn't have any mana issues since Judgement of Wisdom is usually up on the boss. So, for a 25 man build i would put the 2 remaining points into Ancestral Knowledge since Int also gives you AP. For 5 and 10 mans, mana can be a little harder to maintain and i would put the points into Improved Stormstrike.
Your top 2 priorities for stats Elife are to reach the Expertise and Spell Hit cap. Then shoot for 30% melee crit (for Flurry and Unleashed Rage uptime) and then stack AP.
For Glyphs, there are quite a few options for Enhance, and they depends a fair bit on your overall stats as to what is best.
1. Stormstrike (best glyph available)
2. Feral Spirit (new glyph, seems to be right up there, haven't tested myself though)
3. Windfury/Flametongue/Lightning Shield (all 3 are pretty close and decent choices)
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Elife

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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by Elife on 04/15/2009 7:12 pm
Thanks, specced with 2/2 imp stormstrike.
Got glyphs... now onto the hard part... enchant and socket all that stuff.
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Elife

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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by Elife on 05/01/2009 2:20 pm
I found using shock and awe a little confusing and not fun in a way that it feels like I press random buttons w/o understanding.
Is there a basic rotation?
SS -> Shock -> Lava. Use instand LB or CL when you have 5 stacks of "that" thing =)
Is that remotely correct?
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mr-mac

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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by mr-mac on 05/01/2009 3:11 pm
That's kinda right elife. The problem is that SS is 8 second and shocks/LL are 6. There is a basic rotation, but it's a little more dynamic.
SS, ES, LL, (pause) ES, SS, LL (pause) ES, LL (pause) (repeat)
The pauses are because of the cooldowns. Normally these are just brief pauses and they get shuffled around even more due to the MWx5 procs which you should use with a LB or CL as needed.
IMPORTANT: only use LB and CL when MW is stacked to 5. If you cast it at 4, it will reset your mele swing timer. When dual wielding you always start swing 1 weapon then the 2nd. By using non-instant spells, you have to start the swing process over again and greatly reduces your white damage.
It may seem really random, but i almost don't even use it anymore as my brain has kinda figured out what the cooldowns are and keeps track for me. I use it mostly for the MWx5 procs and to let me know when i need to refresh my shield and fire totems.
The priority system that SAA tells you what is currently the highest priority spell available.
Generally i think the priority is:
MWx5 LB - Maelstrom Weapon x5 Instant Lightning bolt
ES_SS - Earthshock with Stormstrike debuff up
SS - Stormstrike
ES - EarthShock
MT - Magma Totem (if not up)
LL - Lava Lash
SR - Shamanistic Rage (if mana is low)
LS - Lightning Shield if charges are low
The general problem with this is that there are situations where it is not actually the case. For example, if the mob is almost dead, it will probably be better to use lava lash vs the magma totem as you won't get more than 1 tick of the MT before the mob dies.
You thought healing was like playing Whack-a-mole? Being an enhancement shaman is like playing Whack-a-mole with your eyes closed ;)
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mr-mac

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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by mr-mac on 05/01/2009 3:14 pm
One thing i forgot. There is a reason why we don't spread out the cooldowns better like a pally 6-9 rotation, it's because we want to generate as many MW procs as possible and we want them as soon as possible. The sooner we stack to 5 and cast something, the sooner we can get back to generating new MW procs. If you hold a MWx5 waiting for a pause in the rotation, you are losing chances to proc MW.
_________________ GhostCrawler:If your raid is stacked with Paladin healers your group healing will suffer. If your raid is stacked with Druid healers, your tank healing will suffer. If your raid is stacked with Priests, you won’t have any problems.
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Elife

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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by Elife on 05/04/2009 11:42 am
mr-mac wrote: |
It may seem really random, but i almost don't even use it anymore as my brain has kinda figured out what the cooldowns are and keeps track for me. I use it mostly for the MWx5 procs and to let me know when i need to refresh my shield and fire totems. |
That is kinda what I thought. I was going to go with standard rotation and use addon to keep track of MW and Shields.
mr-mac wrote: | You thought healing was like playing Whack-a-mole? Being an enhancement shaman is like playing Whack-a-mole with your eyes closed ;) |
You be proud of me, mon =)
I did 2500 dps in half resto gear with no enchants and gems pressing random buttons.
But that was single target dps.
On AoE packs do I just drop magma totem and use CL when I have MWx5 stack?
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FideousMember

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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by Fideous on 05/04/2009 12:03 pm
Yeah, for AoE i would be using CL and Magma. For single target dps you need to decide if your Flametongue Totem buffs the group enough drop it. For a caster heavy group on single target dps, Flametongue > Magma. Also, keeping Magma up is very mana intensive and unless you have JoW on the mob i wouldn't bother. In most 25 man raids you'll have JoW and hopefully another shaman (resto or elemental) taking care of the spell power buff.
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mr-mac

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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by mr-mac on 05/04/2009 12:05 pm
You should always drop Magma as long as you have the mana and the group doesn't need FT. Searing is inferior DPS on single target vs magma.
As far as aoe you got it. Drop magma and start building MW procs to cast CL. Just be prepared for rouges to pwn you on the aoe dps charts.
_________________ GhostCrawler:If your raid is stacked with Paladin healers your group healing will suffer. If your raid is stacked with Druid healers, your tank healing will suffer. If your raid is stacked with Priests, you won’t have any problems.
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Elife

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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by Elife on 05/04/2009 2:50 pm
mr-mac wrote: | Just be prepared for rouges to pwn you on the aoe dps charts. |
I can't catch them on a mage, let alone enh shaman =)
Blow 10k dps on a mage, rouge is at 12k xD
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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by Zor on 05/04/2009 3:19 pm
Mind sear owns all
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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by Guest on 05/04/2009 3:58 pm
I kinda stumbled onto this thread by mistake, but for my shaman I'm still lvling (rl problems with teeth >.<) I was wondering a couple things, I heard Haste was a huge stat for enh shamans, did I hear wrong? and I also heard playing enh was very similar to how survival hunters are currently (with the priority system etc- they even have a SAA adaptation for hunters called ShotAndAwe) which would be a bonus (cuz I'm good at it) but might suck (cuz I play my alts only when I'm bored of my hunter- rarely)
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mr-mac

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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by mr-mac on 05/04/2009 4:16 pm
Yes, enh shaman are priority based. Yes haste is a big stat, but there are points where haste can cause a loss in WF dmg. It's very much a balancing act as far as stats go.
The wrong amount of haste can cause problems, but it's easier to get around currnetly.
If you want to know more about this, the elitist jerks have both a TTT and a class mechanics section that are basically the bible for enhancement shaman.
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Elife

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re: Some Enhance Tips for Elife
by Elife on 05/04/2009 6:12 pm
I wouldn't go there =)
First to figure out what to press, rofl >.>
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