Agamem
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re: Dk changes, time to respec mith?
 by Agamem on 03/12/2009 4:43 pm
Death Knight
* Item - Death Knight T8 Melee 2P Bonus (Class: Death Knight) -- Increases the critical strike chance of Death Coil and Frost Strike by 5%.
* Item - Death Knight T8 Melee 4P Bonus (Class: Death Knight) -- Increases the bonus damage done per disease by 20% on Blood Strike, Heart Strike, Obliterate, and Scourge Strike.
* Item - Death Knight T8 Tank 2P Bonus (Class: Death Knight) -- Increases the damage done by Rune Strike by 5%.
* Item - Death Knight T8 Tank 4P Bonus (Class: Death Knight) -- Anti-magic shell also grants you 10% reduction to physical damage taken.
sounds like they are pushing tanks towards unholy. Which btw is what most high end tanking dk guilds use.
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re: Dk changes, time to respec mith?
by Mithoron on 03/12/2009 4:47 pm
None of those are Unholy-specific, so not sure what you're talking about.
Rune Strike is the generalized threat-building skill.
Anti-magic shell is the generalized bubble...if anything, they're ADDING to tanking by letting this reduce physical damage as well...considering the nerfs that are coming to IBF and UA...
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re: Dk changes, time to respec mith?
by Agamem on 03/12/2009 4:54 pm
ah read it quickly and wrong, thought it said anti-magic zone.
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re: Dk changes, time to respec mith?
by Mithoron on 03/12/2009 4:59 pm
LOL, they'd never make a tier bonus purely a single talent spec buff!
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re: Dk changes, time to respec mith?
by Voltrond on 03/12/2009 5:12 pm
looks like they are trying to make death strike > obliterate for blood dps
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re: Dk changes, time to respec mith?
by Mithoron on 03/12/2009 5:20 pm
So far it looks like (EJ crunching number) Frost will be slightly ahead still by about 2% more damage mitigation than Unholy due to talents. It's not the "If you're a DK tank, you're spec'ing Frost" type bonus, but it's something.
The big discussion now is whether AMS is going to become the new "spam this whenever the cooldown is up" or not skill, hehehe.
At first I thought the UA glyph was a huge increase, but it's just a rewording of the previous PTR one so not worth it over a few others atm. Still threat's a big issue right now being discussed. The scenario of "try holding threat off a mage doing 6K DPS when all your threat is based upon RNG" conversations are quite prevalent...
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re: Dk changes, time to respec mith?
by Agamem on 03/12/2009 5:33 pm
whats the difference in threat generation between unholy and frost?
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re: Dk changes, time to respec mith?
by HaleStorm87 on 03/12/2009 5:48 pm
Unholy is better for AE threat.
Frost is more of a balance with threat and mitigation.
Blood is better for single target dps and some survivability.
And don't forget the change they did to LichBorne. No more chance to miss. Only thing that talent is useful for is pvp.
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